Mature manga, please

[Hanaji]

Oke, I want a manga that is mature, serious, humorless and tragic. Basically, just a sad manga with no stupid jokes about bumping in to a girl and accidentaly touching her breast.
I would also want this manga to actually have a point, something to say to me. I'm not gonna use the word "deep" (fail), but I want to be touched by it.
The characters are also very important. They must be realistic, I must be able to believe in them. I refuse to read anything with one-sided characters! And that goes for the bad guys just as well as the main protagonist.

I know I'm asking for quite alot, but you people, if any, should be able to help me. I will not grace you with an onion though. This is a serious and mature thread!

[w07]

Hmmm......u should try saikano...it fits the tragic genre that u want .

[narmo]

I would recommand Gantz for it's a very mature manga, very dark, bloody and realistic and with very despisable characters. Free of the traditional cliché of good and evil.
There is also Shamo, a very mature one and controversial. A bit less realistic than Gantz but nonetheless very impressive. Those mangas should shock or even disgust you, but it could also fascinate you

[Hanaji]

thank you both for your answers. especially saikano must be good since you double posted :P
i watched Gantz and it was one of the best things ive seen so i might get into that one. what sucks doh is that i allready spoiled it a lil.. know one special characer is gonna die. but spoil no more, might still read it, i will forget eventually anyway ^^
ill also try to remember Shamo. looked it up on wikipedia and it looks kinda cool.
but about Saikano, is it licensed? cuz i cant find it anywhere?

[Mimi]

Hmm, that saikano, i wonder if it's this: http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=4556 ?
other than that, i can't find anything either =/ and that's saying something ~ =P

Or this one?
http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=1816

Doesn't sound that mature tho.. not really that realistic.. lol, ultimate weapon..

[w07]

[quote=Shattered_Crystal;33388]Hmm, that saikano, i wonder if it's this: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] ?
other than that, i can't find anything either =/ and that's saying something ~ =P

Or this one?
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Doesn't sound that mature tho.. not really that realistic.. lol, ultimate weapon..

the summry that's writtin in mangaupdates.com is taken from viz ,those idiots made it look like this is some sort of happy shounen romance well it isnt its a very tragic and depressing story trust me go read it and u will see.
oh and hanaji i didnt mean to double post its just that my connection got cut off and i thought the post i had written wasnt posted so i wrote another one sorry for the trouble ill remove the 2nd post .

[Hanaji]

no dont! oh.. its too late. it was actually good you double-posted, then my thred looked better ^^
your description of saikano made it sound a damned lot more interesting than it did earlier

[w07]

Well hanaji buddy if your looking for saikano u can download it here [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

[narmo]

There is also Zetman which is dark realistic as Gantz is. Only problem is that it takes time to be released (now there is 6 or 7 completed Volumes, but the mangaka takes quite his time)...........

[Mimi]

Originally Posted by w07

Well hanaji buddy if your looking for saikano u can download it here http://www.mangatraders.com/manga/series/228

*sighs*

yes, i love that site, but the dls are soooo slow if ur not premium.. too many people dlin